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söndag 30 april 2023

Knife Review Acejet Spinner Bowie Silver Hunter

  

Introduction

I don't know anything about sales figures, but the experiment of entering the competition for knives aimed at so-called classic knife throwing seems to have been successful for Acejet. That considering that no less than two new models on the same theme have recently been released. They have been named Achilles and Maximus and have seen the light of day in the spring of 2023.

But already last year Acejet released this knife model, the Spinner Bowie and I have to say I had high expectations for it. Those who follow me know that I previously had a lot of good things to say about Acejet's products and achieved success with them also in a competition context.

Acejet Spinner Bowie Silver Hunter


But they have all been more or less typical No Spin knives, which means that this was a bit of terra incognita for Acejet as it was their first model dedicated to spin throwing. The question is how successful that venture was.



Appearance and dimensions


Spinner Bowie is a model that is available in a couple of different editions right from the start. On the one hand, there is a variant in dark steel that goes by the name Shadow Hunter or, as here, one in leaves and moss, a more easily found version in brushed metal. The addition to the name then becomes Silver Hunter instead. In addition to that, you can also choose the color of the leather pieces that make up the handle sides.

The sides are screwed in place with shiny Chicago screws. A good choice, but Acejet should know that they must also be provided with thread locking to stay in place. After a little vibration from some good hits, the screws loosen and the risk of losing them is obvious. Then the leather could be more substantial. This variant is only 1.5 mm thick. When I make similar handle sides myself, I use 3.5mm as a comparison.

The blades are fairly typical clip-point blades but slightly narrower than is usual for most Bowie knives


The look is otherwise a slim Bowie with its typical clip-point tip. The height of the blade is only three centimeters and the thickness is 6 mm. The Spinner Bowie knives are available in two different lengths of which the longer one measuring thirteen inches or 33 cm. The shorter one is 12" long or 30.5 cm. The reason for the lengths is, in addition to the fact that different throwers prefer different lengths of knives, also that certain regulatory systems stipulate certain measurements. This would therefore be approved under all regulations except one that I know of.

A hole that turns the knife into a so-called "spinner" you can rotate the knife around your index finger. Then this hole was quite rough which required some sandpapering to get comfortable


The finish is quite rough with some machining marks remaining but that's not something I worry about on a throwing knife. The marks that appear after throwing the knives for a while are significantly worse. For those who appreciate "patina" of their knives, knife throwing is an excellent activity.

Right from the start, the thin leather was a bit loose


Something that worsened during the throwing sessions. However, how much varies with humidity and it is possible to press the leather so it fits tighter


Then the knife has been provided with a detail that is also reflected in the name "Spinner" and that is the distinctive hole. Originally, those kinds of features on knife handles were meant to make them harder to knock out of people's hands while still protecting the finger a bit. On throwing knives, it is a pure "play function". It makes the knife more fun in that you can rotate the knife around the index finger. Something that is not quite as pointless as it seems. Juggling a bit with throwing knives reveals characteristics such as balance point and rotation speed.


Material


The steel is the same Czech spring steel that the majority of Acjet's products are made of. A material that has proven to be excellent most of the time. It is both durable and easy to regrind. Unfortunately, I have had to make use of that characteristic quite a bit on these knives. Among other things, the tips have been slightly reprofiled. In this case, it feels as if these knives are not hardened in the same way as, for example, the Stinger and Excalibur models. On the other hand, these tips are of a different model so that can also affect the outcome. In any case, the outermost part went pretty quickly.

The tips needed to be resharpened fairly immediately after the knives had been in close contact with each other


Then you should know that this category of steel is hardly stainless. So there will be stains of various kinds and this applies both if you forget the knives in a damp environment and during use. It's enough to throw a few hours and your hands are damp from either heat or rain. But it is easily removed with either fine sandpaper and/or Autosol or similar products.


To Throw


As said, Spinner Bowies are knives geared towards classic rotation techniques. Then, of course, as with almost everything else, you can also throw No spin with this model. But it is really not optimal for the purpose so it is not recommended. As previously pointed out, AceJet has a long line of knives better suited to those techniques.

Right from the start it was felt that the Spinner Bowie is an easy-to-handle model that provides direct feedback to the thrower


The first impressions were that I had to readjust a bit in relation to other throwing knives of a similar type I use. In some way, it is noticeable that Acejet is used with other types of knives. Now it's not something bad, but just a characteristic that manifests itself in the fact that it feels like the knife is striving forward. It rotates quickly, which requires you to let that movement start a little later and thus closer to the target than usual. The knife still manages to get around.

Furthermore, the knife was unmistakably perceived as easy to aim with. Actually better in that area than my favorite knives. At least over a short distance. It was quickly established that the penetration is good. Something that is important so that you, as a thrower, do not have to use too much force and still be able to stick the knives. Too much raw strength often reduces precision.

The balance point is found fifteen centimeters from the handle or eighteen centimeters from the tip. In practice, it means right at the front of the ring. A fairly neutral knife in other words.


- Rotational

It is in this area that the knife's strengths are found, which goes without saying. Fairly immediately, the characteristics described above were noticed and they were reinforced over time. The Spinner Bowie is particularly nice at short distances such as three and four meters. Here they feel accurate and easy to throw.

At a short distance, three meters with a grip on the handle, you need to have a feeling that the knife should strive forward. If you do, it is solid and feels reliable. Let the knife do its thing and it will sit there in the target. The grip feels natural with the rounded rear end of the handle against the inside of the hand and does not need to be modified in any way.

The first throws with the Acejet Spinner from November 2022


From four meters and the first time you change the grip and hold the blade, a fairly firm grip is required to "calm down" the throw. Otherwise, the knife wants to over-rotate. But the belly of the blade is relatively similar to the rear end of the handle, whereupon the two grips resemble each other. Some throwers think that feature is important, but I personally don't depend on the knife being symmetrical that way.

It's fairly easy to get a nice grouping with the Acejet Spinner Bowie


From five meters I feel that the knife has to be thrown with a little more power than I am used to. But that could be because my reference knives are heavier and rotate slower. They require more arc than these knives which can be thrown quite straight at the target. However, the rotation must be controlled when doing so, as it is quite nimble as I said.

The pattern then repeats itself from six and seven meters and the knife is reasonably easy to handle even from those distances, although I prefer a little more weight from those distances. It gives more weight in the hit without requiring more strength while making the rotation slower.

- Half Spin

These knives are significantly better than most other Bowie-inspired throwing knives when it comes to semi-rotational techniques, be it 'Natural' or 'Military'. The reason is mainly to be found in the narrow blade, which is easy to grip around. I don't appreciate wide-bladed knives if I have to hold the blade. The Spinner Bowie almost feels like a dagger in this case. But it doesn't quite reach that level. The ring means there is a bit of side weight although it doesn't cause the knife to capsize in the air like some other knives tend to do.

Then, the length means that these knives, in combination with the above-mentioned characteristics, are excellent for underhand throws with half rotation. They turn slowly and majestically with this technique and it is desirable as it makes them easier to throw.

- No Spin

I think we'll skip this section altogether. That is, sure you can throw some No spin throws with this knife just to prove it works but it really isn't made for that and it shows.


Conclusion


In order to form an opinion and give a fair picture of these knives, some time was needed. They were acquired in October 2022 and thus did not have enough throwing time at the end of last year to be sufficient as a basis for review. But now the season has really started and I have more throws under my belt, so to speak.

Acejet released the Spinner Bowie in 2022


One small detail that I feel could be improved, especially considering the price range, is the finish. As it is now, it is a bit rough. Some edges, especially those on the inside of the rings were almost sharp and needed a round of sandpaper to work satisfactorily. This also applies to the edges of the backs of two of the knives. Nor was the leather of top quality either in terms of the material or the way it was attached.

I can cope with that. But as a maker of my own handles, I know that it is definitely best to glue them in addition to attaching them with screws. Especially if the leather is this thin. Creases tend to occur as it is now. However, it can be added that thinner sides make the grip in the handle more similar to that in the blade if that is what is being sought. So it is not only to the detriment.

Then it must be admitted that the hardness on these knives is perhaps a bit on the soft side. I don't have any numbers to back that observation up but have noticed that the tips are very easily damaged on an oblique hit or in contact with other knives or a rock. This means that all knives have reprofiled tips by now. In return, this is something that happens when you train a lot if you don't have access to a perfect training area. Read, three separate targets and preferably soft material in front and around.

Acejet Spinner Bowie is, in addition to a luxurious beginner's knife, also an excellent competition knife


But that is still secondary. Throwing knives get their scars and wear their history visibly. It gives them character. More important is how they behave when thrown and that's where the Acejet Spinner Bowie is pure precision instruments. This especially applies to shorter distances.

The solid feel makes this a good beginner's knife for those who want to devote themselves mainly to rotational throwing with elements of Military Half Spin in various variations. Should you feel the slightest doubt about quality and warranty, I can reassure you by saying that I have so far not managed to break an Acejet knife despite occasional veritable abuse. This also includes a lifetime warranty on the products.

Then quality knives are not cheap, these cost at the time of writing €316 or $349. But for that, you get knives that both work as advanced entry-level knives for those who have decided or just want to upgrade their knives and maybe compete. 



AceJet Official




Specifications:

Steel: 14260, Czech Spring Steel
Length: 330 mm
Width: 30 mm
Thickness: 6 mm
Weight: 390 g
Point of Balance: 15/18 cm from the back of the handle/tip


/ J - saying..."support your local knife thrower"

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tisdag 8 november 2022

Picture of the Day No 262 "Silver Hunter"

Here they are, my latest addition from Acejet. The model is called the  Spinner Bowie  and they get the  Silver Hunter addition to the name when they are this shiny. Something which, by the way, they are not that long as they are made of spring steel. One of the properties the material has is that it is anything but stainless.

Coupled with the occasional miss and some "Robin Hood" hits and you have patina in no time. That's the nice way of saying they wear. This was especially true of the tips on these as I broke a couple of millimeters on two of them fairly immediately. It's the first time I've noticed it on knives from Acejet.



Otherwise, I really like these knives. However, they feel very different to throw compared to several other sets of rotational knives I have experience with. Silver Hunter are relatively light for their length and they require "active" throwing. That is to say, you have to throw somewhat harder, especially over longer distances than, say, my Woodpecker from Pierre Cazoulat, which I am most used to. Those knives spin because of their weight and hit the target slowly but with pondus. Spinner Bowie simply requires a bit more speed.

What I like about them is they are easy to aim with. The precision comes from an easily calculated trajectory and reliable feel in the rotation. Then it is exciting that Acejet has also entered the game with a set of blades entirely for rotational throwing. An area they previously stayed away from.



/ J 

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torsdag 3 november 2022

Dagens bild nr 262 "Silver Hunter"


Här är de, mitt senaste tillskott från Acejet. Modellen kallas Spinner Bowie och sedan får de tillägget Silver Hunter när de är så här skinande och blanka. Något som de för övrigt inte är så länge då det är gjorda av fjäderstål. En av egenskaperna det materialet har är att det är allt annat än rostfritt. 

Tillsammans med en och annan miss samt någon "Robin Hood"-träff och du har har patina inom kort. Det är det snälla sättet att uttrycka att de slits. Särskilt visade det sig gälla spetsarna på de här då jag kastade av ett par millimeter på två av dem tämligen omgående. Det är första gången jag märkt det på knivar från Acejet.



Annars gillar jag de här knivarna skarpt. De känns dock mycket annorlunda att kasta med jämfört med flera andra set av rotationsknivar jag har erfarenhet av. Silver Hunter är relativt lätta för sin längd och de kräver "aktivt" kastande. Det vill säga man måste kasta något hårdare på framförallt längre distanser än säg mina Woodpecker från Pierre Cazoulat som jag är mest van vid. De knivarna snurrar av sin tyngd och träffar långsamt men med pondus. Spinner Bowie kräver att man tar i lite mer helt enkelt. 

Det jag gillar med dem är de är lätta att sikta med. Precisionen kommer sig av en lättberäknad kastbana och pålitlig känsla i rotationen. Sen är det spännande att även Acejet gett sig in i leken med en uppsättning knivar för rotationskastning. Ett område som de tidigare hållt sig ifrån. 


/ J - tränar kastarmen

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söndag 23 oktober 2022

New Knife - AceJet Spinner Bowie Silver Hunter

There are probably more people than me out there who waited. For what, might one wonder. Well, that Acejet should broaden their catalog. Not because they have few models, on the contrary, there is a lot to choose from if you look at their website. Incidentally, it is recently updated when this is written in October 2022. And as if the number of knives is not enough, there are often different versions of many models. It can be about different types of steel, extra thick versions, or luxury editions with various designs including gold-plated ones.

But so far, there has been a lack of serious investment in knives intended for rotational throwing. Now perhaps that is not so strange given the background of Acejet's main poster name Adam Celadin. He still holds several gold medals at the international level in just no spin. Then it could possibly be objected that Osetr-type knives such as the Appache (SIC!) I reviewed can be used for all types of throwing. That's a correct statement but that doesn't make it a pure rotational knife in any case.

Someone at the company probably realized that there was a bit more to be gained both in terms of attention and probably money if you also included models geared solely towards that type of throwing style. Thus, the recently launched Spinner Bowie knives were a fact.

AceJet Spinner Bowie, Silver Hunter


Spinner Bowie is initially available in two different editions. One is called "Shadow Hunter" and has the darker steel found in the shadow series. It is the same blued steel found in the Raven II that I previously wrote about. The other is this one which has the usual rough brushed finish found on a majority of Acejet knives. The knife then gets the addition, Silver Hunter, instead.

That the knife is a Bowie is perhaps evident from the shape of the distinctly cut tip. But it is a rather narrow knife for its type. The height of the blade is only 30 millimeters. In addition to the blade shape, it is the ring typical of spinner knives that dominates the appearance. The one that allows you to spin the knife around your index finger. A vital feature...or maybe not. But it's fun in any case. 

A set of knives for rotational throwing ready to be inaugurated


The thickness is 6 mm, which I think is almost perfect for rotational knives. Any thicker than that and they tend to be too heavy. For my taste should be added as it is a highly personal preference. In this case, it is enough for a weight of 390 g. But that is because this is the long version that measures 13" or 33 cm. The knives are available in a twelve-inch/30.5 cm variant as well and then weigh around 330 g.

In addition to the length and finish of the steel, the knife can be obtained with different colors on the pieces of leather that act as handles. They are screwed in place with Chicago screws but not glued. I will return to that fact in a future review. One of the few details that don't feel thought through on this knife.

Overall a very exciting and interesting acquaintance and it will be really fun to inaugurate these knives! When it will happen is weather dependent must be admitted!



När du köper dina Appache eller annan produkt från AceJet uppge kod "JOHN" (i versaler) så får du 5% rabatt på ditt köp vid utcheckning.
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and you will get 5% discount  on your purchase!






/ J - waiting for if not better times then better weather

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fredag 21 oktober 2022

Ny(a) kniv(ar) - AceJet Spinner Bowie Silver Hunter

Det är nog fler än jag som väntat misstänker jag. På vad kanske vän av ordning undrar? Jo, på att Acejet skall bredda sitt sortiment. Inte för att de har få modeller, tvärtom finns det väldigt mycket att välja på om du tittar in på deras hemsida. Det är för övrigt nyligen uppdaterad när det här skrivs oktober 2022. Och som om inte antalet knivar är nog så finns ofta olika versioner av många modeller. Det kan handla om experimenterande med ståltyp, extra kraftiga versioner eller lyxutgåvor med diverse mönster inklusive förgyllda sådana. 

Men hittills har det saknats en rejäl satsning mot knivar avsedda för rotationskastning. Nu är det kanske inte så konstigt givet bakgrunden för Acejets främsta affischnamn Adam Čeladín. Han innehar ändock flera guldmedaljer på internationell nivå i just no-spin. Sedan kan möjligen invändas att knivar av Osetr-typ som exempelvis den av mig recenserade Appache (SIC!) kan användas för all typ av kastning. Det är ett korrekt påstående men det gör den inte till en renodlad rotations-kniv i vilket fall som helst. 

Någon på företaget insåg troligen att det fanns lite mer att hämta både vad gäller uppmärksamhet och troligen pengar om man även inkluderade modeller enbart inriktade mot den typen av kastning. Därmed var de nyligen lanserade Spinner Bowie-knivarna ett faktum. 

AceJet Spinner Bowie, Silver Hunter


Spinner Bowie kan inledningvis fås i två olika utgåvor. En kallas "Shadow Hunter" och har de mörkare stålet som återfinns i shadow-serierna. Det är samma blånerade stål som återfinns i Raven II som jag tidigare skrivit om. Den andra är den här som har den vanliga grova borstade ytan som hittas på en majoritet av Acejets knivar. Kniven får då tillägget Silver Hunter istället. 

Att kniven är en Bowie kanske framgår av formen på den distinkt klippta spetsen. Men det är en tämligen smal kniv för att vara av den typen. Höjden på bladet är endast tre centimeter. Utöver bladformen är det den för spinner-knivar typiska ringen som dominerar utseendet. Den som gör att du kan snurra kniven runt pekfingret. En livsnödvändig funktion...eller kanske inte. Men kul är den i vilket fall som helst. 

Ett set knivar för rotationskastning färdiga att invigas


Tjockleken är 6 mm vilket jag tycker är närmast perfekt för rotationsknivar. Tjockare än så och de tenderar att bli för tunga. För min smak skall tilläggas då det är en högst personlig preferens. Det finns de som kastar med knivar som väger uppåt ett kilo. I det här fallet räcker det till en vikt på 390 g. Men det beror på att det här är den långa versionen som mäter 13" eller 33 cm. Knivarna finns i tolv tums/30,5cm variant också och väger då kring 330 g. 

Utöver längd och finish på stålet kan kniven fås med olika färg på de läderbitar som agerar handtag. De är skruvade på plats med chicagoskruvar men inte limmade. Jag återkommer till det förhållandet i kommande recension. En av få detaljer som inte känns genomtänkt på den här kniven. 

Överlag en  mycket spännande och intressant bekantskap och det skall bli riktigt kul att få inviga de här knivarna! När det sker är lite väderberoende måste medges!



När du köper dina Appache eller annan produkt från AceJet uppge kod "JOHN" (i versaler) så får du 5% rabatt på ditt köp vid utcheckning.
När du köper dina Appache eller annan produkt från AceJet uppge kod "JOHN" (i versaler)
så får du 5% rabatt på ditt köp vid utcheckning. 






/ J - väntar på om inte bättre tider så bättre väder

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